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Trafaller
Starting Member
USA
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 Posted - Oct 22 2005 : 16:35:43
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I found an interesting online service - bride card. I can say that they saved me. The fact is that I met one charming lady from Russia 2 months ago. She was so pretty... I was in love with her... I called her several times - she wasn't in any Russian marriage agency and I thought I catched my chance. But I wanted to know if she is real? And then I decided to use that serice... In brief, I ordered a card for my Nina... And she didn't pass their verification. That service found she was a real single scammer... God, I was ready to send her $1250.00 for that damn notebook... So I decided to use that service in the future. Interesting and unusual thing... And they are independent - it's a great thing.
If you have your own experience with that service - let's discuss. |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 22 2005 : 16:48:48
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i would say "a two edged sword" to be honest.
put yourself in the womans shoes.......
imagine i have an agency like this one. i want a copy of your passport, id card, two forms of different utility bill, copy of your birth certificate, marraige certificate, divorce certificate, confirmation of being single, you full name, your full address, your bank statement for last 3 months, your last 3 months credit card statements, your mobile and home phone number.......... the list can be endless.....
would you send me this information?
if you asked ME for this information, i will say "heck no"!!!! ever heard of identity theft????
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
Edited by - nick20045 on Oct 22 2005 16:50:09 |
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Trafaller
Starting Member
USA
2 Posts |
Posted - Oct 22 2005 : 16:54:46
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| The fact is that that service stores the information and you, as their client can't get it. So the woman can be sure that her information will be given only if she scams! I think that if you love, their verification - easy step to be together. Otherwise, I can ask - darling, why do you refuse to give them your real info? Maybe you are a scammer? As you understand, it's much better that asking about her scan directly. I think this way. |
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Robby45
Junior Member
19 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 11:26:57
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nick20045, I'm new here but I used this service recently. My girl agreed to pass their verification and now she obtained thier bridecard. I checked the number - she is OK! And she didn't say "heck no" - she really wants to be my life partner.
Therefore your opinion is only your one.  |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 12:22:05
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Originally posted by Robby45
she really wants to be my life partner.
personally, anybody who asks me for confidential information, my answer is "thanks but no thanks". you do not say where you live but, here in england, it has been found that people even go through garbage bins trying to find info to sell for identity theft.
i hope things work out for you with your woman. but, i was engaged to one from russia. she swore her undying love. when i was there, she would come on the mobile and cry her eyes out if she had to work overtime because she could not be with me. her dad even gave me his personal army watch and a photo of him and his wife to remember them. everything was bleeding perfect until......
i left. then for first few days, loads of text on mobile. after that.....
well you can guess. i did use the word "was" engaged. 
anyway, what is to stop somebody (a scammer) using say a sisters identity? name, address, telephone number, etc? sister can be a nun in a convent. other one can be a devil in disguise. nothing is foolproof. 
by the way, i like this. one member with one post advertising a site. one member with two posts (both about same thing i.e. bride card) backing him. cool.
anybody wants to take a shot at backing our private investigator who advertised his services???
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
Edited by - nick20045 on Oct 23 2005 12:24:27 |
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Robby45
Junior Member
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Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 12:36:59
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| I don't advertise. No, thanks. I just was scammed several times and I'd perfer to see all the scammers in the prison. That's why I was glad when I had found that service. I guess that you'd want to be sure that your woman is real, wouldn't you? |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 13:01:12
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Originally posted by Robby45
I guess that you'd want to be sure that your woman is real, wouldn't you?
i'm like st. thomas. only believe anything is real when i see it with my own eyes. then again even today, this is totally debateable......
how do you know she is a real woman and not an after op tv? what in real terms constitutes a "real woman"? is it she can cook? or is it she can nag? is it she can blow your mind off in bed? or is it how many headaches she has? the list in endless......
so what in real terms constitutes a "real woman"?
personally, i will ONLY take a sub to a card which will confirm:
a: she does not speak english and is not interested in learning english
b: she will work like a dog and pass on all money to me as she will not understand it
c: she knows how to cook
d: she knows how to keep a home clean
e: she likes wearing sexy clothing and knows when to drop them
f: when football is on, she goes to the kitchen and brings out a 6 pack
g: when friends come round, she is obedient, shuts up and just passes popcorn round.
h: she does not mind me looking at porn on magazines or the telly
i: she hates shopping for clothes, shoes, handbags and the such
j: minimum twice a year, she will invite her best and most georgeous girlfriend so we can have a threesome
k: the word "headache" is not in her vocabulary
l: neither is the words NO, BUT and IF
m: she loves the home and does not like to go on holidays when i travel
n: she hates pubs and clubs but does like me going to strip joints to further my carnal knowledge
anybody who thinks i have forgotten something in my list please let me know. i always like to learn.
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 13:15:48
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incidentally, to help the "original" poster....
http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
notebooks start from US$499 (use google.com). even if go for the next one up at US$699, US$1250 less US$699 = US$551 which would have left you with most probably enough cash for the air ticket and the visa.
now, taking in consideration that she is going to be the lucky owner of a brand new notebook computer, i guess she would have invited you to stay at her home for the stay. so all that would be needed is a few hundred dollars for spending money.
so, tip: never send any money. if it comes to shove vs crunch, buy it yourself. take it with you. get free accomodation and if she gets on your nerves come back home with it. LOL.
i DO believe the motto is: NEVER SEND ANY MONEY
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
Edited by - nick20045 on Oct 23 2005 13:18:15 |
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Robby45
Junior Member
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Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 16:59:36
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nick20045, let's be honest. The first question you ask your self when you meet a pretty girl online is "Is she real or a scammer?" As for me - I asked myself for hundred times.
Next, writing "real woman" I mean that she is a honest woman who is ready to pass their verification because she wants to be with me.
Please be serious.
And I ordered the card because I didn't want to waste my time corresponding with a phantom. Moreover, I like taht there is an opportunity to recieve all her data if she will try to scam me to catch her. You must agree, it's a good moment.
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 23 2005 : 17:25:26
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Robby45
have you not realised yet that i also have a "mad" sense of humour?
chill out man! if it works for you great.
p.s. no actually i do not ask if she is real or a scammer. i check her header. if i find the bat i am weary. i check the isp. if it does not tally with where she says she lives i drop her. i check the time she wrote. add 3 hours to have russian time. if it works out something like say 3am or thereabouts, no honest hard working woman will be up at that time writing a letter and then at 8am has to be at work.
if she says she uses the internet cafe and she writes at anytime past midnight, i do not care how much she says she loves me. no russian will go out at midnight just to go to an internet cafe.
if she says she is working from 8am to 6pm and has a computer at home and i "ping" it at say 2pm russian time and the computer is online, i dump her cos she is supposed to be at work.
if she makes promises and does not keep them, i dump her.
why? i am not desperate. (not implying that any member on here is) but i do not let love letters run either my heart or my testosterones (darn..... i bet i spelt that one wrong. lol).
if i find her ok. if not, heck.... had a penfriend for a while. i am not bothered. i know how to cook, i know how to keep a home. i am ok financially. not rich but not poor. middle class. i am not in need of a female to sort my life out. i love my life. the only difference with having a female is that have companionship. but then again, it does have its downsides as well....... nagging, getting told off. cannot watch what i want. cannot go where i want.
any woman i sent money to, i did it on my own accord. hence cannot be said i got scammed.
i work on a few rules:
1: she is a penfriend until meet. until then i can write to how many i want and so can she
2: when meet she is now a friend. it will be fair on other women to tell them that there is somebody interested in (so not waste their time and maybe money) but, there is a chance that somebody else may attract you more.
3: when have slept together now she is a girlfriend. that means termination of all other correspondence or, correspondence is only on the basis that they know the person is involved.
4: and MOST IMPORTANT...... if i have lived all this life without her, i can do the same amount of years without her if she leaves.
it is called once bitten twice shy. yes there is room in my life for a lifelong friend. but heck NO will i take crap from anybody.
i am just as happy being single as being with friends or in a relationship.
and as to all this posting "i fell in love with her through her letters" give me a break! sorry guys love me or hate me but it is balony. how do you know that when you meet she is not the ugliest looking thing on earth? or that the photo she sent you was after she had shaved off her moustache and beard? (yeah some women do have a moustache and beard lol). or that you may fancy her rotten and she does not fancy you. remember, letters can be deceptive. there is ALWAYS the physical attraction involved. she may say in her letter "i do not care what the person looks like. it is the heart i want to know what it is like". oh yeah! pull the other leg baby.
if i go to russia or anywhere, and i am supposed to meet somebody, to me, i am going on holiday.
if i like her and she likes me ok. if not.... heck i am on holiday. lets party.
but all this, princess, prince, love on the internet, have never met and i adore her........ sorry but pure balony.
chill out. do not send any money. take it easy. one day it will happen. until then, have fun. write a few letters. look at it as a penpal. and enjoy life. LOL.
p.s. quote: "Moreover, I like taht there is an opportunity to recieve all her data if she will try to scam me to catch her."
you have just contradicted traffalar. in an earlier post he said the information is held private. and....
so what are you telling me? you send her US$500. she scamms you. (it may be something genuine for all you know. computer down. broke a leg. was hit by a car and could not go on a pc for a month and you think she is a scammer) and you are going to buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia. maybe a train to where she lives. knock on the door. find Yuri with an ak47. to ask for the money back? LOL.
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
Edited by - nick20045 on Oct 23 2005 17:30:55 |
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Robby45
Junior Member
19 Posts |
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 07:20:14
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nick20045! I wouldn't "buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia." If she scams me and I get the fuul her info,
I'll report to Interpol and (it was discussed maybe here) I'll post an article about her scam in several local Russian newspapers. The effect will be great. To the point, I'll report about that to their MIA. It's very effective. My friend catched a scammer this was in Ukraine. Therefore,as you may see, there are many ways to use that information. To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN.  |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 29 2005 : 09:05:04
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Originally posted by Robby45
nick20045! I wouldn't "buy an air ticket. get a visa. taxi to airport. fly to russia." If she scams me and I get the fuul her info,
I'll report to Interpol and (it was discussed maybe here) I'll post an article about her scam in several local Russian newspapers. The effect will be great. To the point, I'll report about that to their MIA. It's very effective. My friend catched a scammer this was in Ukraine. Therefore,as you may see, there are many ways to use that information. To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN.
ok. here is what i understand from what you say....
1: you are russian. clue: i will report her to MIA and second clue "an articile in the local russian newspapers.
2: you know sweet nothing. the russian police are not really bothered. only in "certain" times i.e. "if pushed" will they do something.
3: talk a load of balony. your friend caught a scammer!!! wow, tell him to wait in line for the noble prize. go on the internet and see how many scammers have been caught. please print a link to the "local newspapers" this was reported on and also what action interpol and the MIA took. what prison sentence she got. how he got his refund.
4: interpol gets involved because somebody scamms a few dollars!!!! give me a break. i have a police friend who is in what in malta is called the SAG. (special assignment group). he deals with interpol. and he knows of loads of people who got scammed and will tell you a very simple answer if you tell him.......... "tough luck never send any money unless you are a fool. if she REALLY wants to see you, she can borrow the money and then send the money to who she borrowed it from by western union. but ONLY after. and STILL there is no guarantee she is not just after a free holiday".
5: "To the point, I think you understand that the probability that the girl with BrideCard will scam is much lower because she KNOWS THAT SHE IS FULLY KNOWN."
the only thing i understand is that anybody who has posted about this "so called bride card" has posted against it except you and the original poster. NO. I do not understand "the probability" and even using the word "probability" deminishes what you state in your comments. and as to being FULLY KNOWN!!!!! jeezzzzz it is the internt for crying out loud. she could be really YURI with a big fat stomach, who goes around drinking vodka, punching women and using his little sisters name and information.
i think you need to go and "peddle" your advise somewhere else. unless you may have not noticed........ nobody is falling for it. anybody who is a fool big enough to send money to a person (be it male, female, gay, transvestite, single, married, divorced, or whatever) just because somebody says "I have a Bride card", is a FOOL. and we all know what means......... say goodbye to your money.
i have a russian woman. NO BRIDE CARD. yes sometimes i "get in trouble with her" and get told off. (being a male i have that perogative). once i offered to send her money to help her out as she said she was unemployed and has a daughter (which is true as i met her and her daughter and they are 100% like the photos she sends). i got one of the biggest bollockings of my life!!!! about how i insulted her and got all sorts thrown at me.
i met her. she was just as happy going for a walk as going for a burger. nothing posh. and even go to a bar, have a glass of orange while i have my first pint. then when i order my second pint she will have a cup of coffee. then off. she wants to leave and return home. no fancy restaurants. no fancy nightclubs........
and i am meeting her again in december and still no Bride card.
and the one before her that i met was the same. the maximum i spent on her in one night was about 200 roubles. a meal at the restaurant of the hotel i was in. and if we ate out, she will only order one plate to keep the price of the bill down.
that is what to me says "a decent woman" not a bride card. and most members on here who have been either corresponding with some lady for a while, or have met their ladies, will also confirm what proves a decent woman.
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
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Robby45
Junior Member
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Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 05:24:29
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Decent woman...
nick20045 - you're like a radio - you read but don't understand!
Why do you write about the meeting? I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.
And that service is like a "firewall". To the point, is it clever to ask for the passport at the meeting if I can check her reality right now, using that service? Why should I waste time trying to catch her if I can check it ina simple way???? |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 06:07:43
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BBC radio 1 here:
this is a repeat. i repeat this is a repeat.
read my story about the "father and the little boy" understand the moral of the story. just in case.......
never trust anybody 100%. will this card guarantee that she will like you 100% when you meet? will it guarantee she will be a good wife? will it guarantee she is not promiscuous? will it guarantee she can keep home, can cook and does not spend all your money. will be faithful until death do you part?
so if you want to trust "a total stranger" with your lovelife, up to you. personally, i wrote to a few ladies. slim the list down to the ones i really like and then simple process of elimination. BUT if it fails!!!! no problem. move on. no sense crying over spilt milk.
so lets say went to meet her. had a holiday. met somebody. she translated for me. she showed me the sights. maybe got the odd home made russian meal. she seems ok. great!!!!!
otherwise, move on.
and look at it from a positive view........
if you go to a different country. do not speak the language. you have somebody 24/7 (or maybe close to it), looking after you, translating for you, showing you all the places to visit how much will it cost if you had to hire a guide/translator/escort for a week??? remember, every cloud has a silver lining.
and last but not least, there is a BIG difference between you and me.
you tell about how you have a lot of money. you are drawing the wrong attention. and it does not pertain only to russians. it is all over the world. people who flash money get hit by hookers, bummers, scammers. they all want part of it.
i tell how i am middle class. not rich not poor. but all women i write to know that getting money out of me is like "getting blood out of a stone". if i haven't got it, i cannot send it.
p.s. i have a "brat card". is that any good?
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
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Robby45
Junior Member
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Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 06:42:17
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"it does not pertain only to russians" - please, don't repeat. I'm not Russian.
Next, I repeat, I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.
I do agree, that your words about meeting and the following difficulties are right. But I mean the first communicating.
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 06:55:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Robby45
"it does not pertain only to russians" - please, don't repeat. I'm not Russian.
understand and do not assume. i said "does not only pertain to russians but all over the world". it means, anybody, anywhere in the world who flashes money is asking to be scammed/hustled.
quote:
Originally posted by Robby45
"Next, I repeat,
so you are BBC radio 2?quote:
Originally posted by Robby45
"I'm talking about avoiding being scammed in the first phase of the relations, much before the meeting.[/b]
very simple. do not flash your money. do not brag about it. and most of all DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY.
bbc radio 1 now is closing the service. please watch BBC world. it is received in a lot of different countries. repeats are every 30 minutes.
hey! joking apart. has anybody walked into a 5 star hotel. they brag about how they have english tv. and all you have is BBC World?? repeats every 30 minutes. drives you mad!!!!! now that is a scam cos we pay licence for it!!!!
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
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Robby45
Junior Member
19 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 07:11:21
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Yeah, I'm BBC radio 2!
Seriously, reading your last post I found that you don't deny that this service can be useful to all who searches for his life partner. Surely all your recomendations are a good guide for all who involved in dating. I don't deny this. |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 07:20:02
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Originally posted by Robby45
Seriously, reading your last post I found that you don't deny that this service can be useful to all who searches for his life partner.
/me has my "brat card". i use it with love.
so..... if we take a muslim, and i have learnt that in kazan a muslim can have more then one wife, does he have to order say "a dozen"???? will he get a discount???
anyway having read all these posts, how many members and admins/mods are by now either on valium or prozac????
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
Edited by - nick20045 on Oct 30 2005 07:23:02 |
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Robby45
Junior Member
19 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 07:42:54
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| To the point, what means "brat card"? What is "brat"? |
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nick20045
Senior Member
United Kingdom
425 Posts |
Posted - Oct 30 2005 : 08:15:06
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brat. from the oxford english dictionary.
in contemptuous sense
hence having a "brat card" means i am always in contempt.
to all russian scammers: i am somewhat of a bullshi*ter myself but i do like to listen to a professional. please carry on |
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WindDevil
Junior Member
Australia
30 Posts |
Posted - Nov 09 2005 : 20:25:34
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Hey nick20045 let me know more about the id theft and if any good examples of what they can do LOL
I might have that problem LOL |
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I found something interesting... did you use that?
