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vxbb
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Posted - May 17 2007 : 07:40:18
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Guys – this web-site is wonderful. I have been scammed, luckily only to the tune of about $100US, but I thought I’d write an article about my experiences. As it is you guys have got the t-shirt, but now I like to have fun with scammers and here’s what I do. I’m pretty sure I can now spot a scammer at 100 paces – the old signs like a sob story (usually all very similar), undying love at first email, vagueness/evasiveness to questions.
Then of course the request for money. When that comes, my plan kicks in. I am normally involved with scammers from Nigeria and Ghana. I live in London, which has many Nigerians and Ghanaians so finding out a bit of background to feed the scammer is very very easy. I know the main languages spoken in each country, which are also linked to what they still refer to as tribes – Twi and Ga in Ghana, Yoruba and Ibo in Nigeria. There are others. Just a mention of that has the scammers thinking, and is often met with a pensive ‘are you Nigerian/Ghanaian?’
• That’s all you need – just say you have a friend/ex girlfriend living over there, in whatever city your scammer says they are in. Tell the scammer you will send them money but only via your friend, because you sent money by transfer before which didn’t arrive, and they should collect it in person from them. This of course gives your scammer a BIG problem. As they are NOT the person whose photos you have (that girl is likely a model the scammer doesn’t know), your ‘girl’ can’t meet your friend. They will try all ways to get you to send money but stick to your guns, and if you offer enough money they will get greedy and offer to send their friend – which will be your scammer of course. Well, let them! Accept their offer - Make a totally false appointment, by searching on the web for a large hotel or office in the city. Give them a time – late at night if possible so they are stranded - and let them stand there!!!!!!! Email to say you are laughing at them, for when they next log on! Unless of course you prefer to string them along and set them up a second time by giving a new appointment another day!
Or, and this isn’t as good but it’s a consolation prize
• you can tell them you have sent money via a money transfer, make up a fake reference number (normally a letter then 8-9 digits) and as money transfers ask for a password make up one that makes them look really stupid, i.e. IAMAKUNT or VANKER or FICKOV, anything. Enjoy the thought of them running around to the nearest office, sweating with greed and fighting with the bank clerk insisting they MUST have the money! Imagine all the scammer promised his girlfriend with YOUR money that he now can’t do! Email to say you are laughing at them, for when they next log on! Unless of course you prefer to string them along and set them up a second time by giving a new false reference for another day!
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cmiia
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Posted - May 17 2007 : 16:06:41
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Or better still get yourself a life and delete their email.
It's a few minutes aved not lowering yourself to the level or the scammer. |
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Ihearmytrain
Junior Member
 
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Posted - May 17 2007 : 16:52:41
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Hey vxbb! I do it all the time! I've got one scammer writing to me using 2 different names, home cities and e-mails, and so am I. I even got a hot 22 yo bi girl who's a friend of mine writing to the scammer!Now. to Gret, the scammer became 25 instead of 27,(because Gret's only 23)and is now discussing "her" desire to be with another woman! Gret updates me regularly. It's lesbian erotica! It's hillarious! If you can, and have time, screw with the scammer. Promise money and make up an excuse why you couldn't send it. Tell the scammer you "love" "her". Realize you may be e-mailing a guy! Frack it! It don't cost nothin'...
Another game is to tell the scammer you are thinking about flying to meet "her" in "her" own country to meet "her" mum and dad before returning to your new home together.
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mace
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Posted - May 21 2007 : 18:40:33
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Ihearmytrain
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Posted - May 22 2007 : 13:10:43
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Hey guys!!! Let's face facts, we all shoot for the stars when it comes to what our woman looks like, right? That's why we get fracked in the end! I was with a beautiful girl I met local for 6+ years. Turned out, she was as big a scammer as any FSU scammer out there, but I was blinded by her looks. Boy did she turn out to be a piece of "art"!!!(the kind of "art" you find in a baby's used diaper)
The only thing a guy can do is to keep trying. Whether it's in your own town or half a world away. Just don't let yourself get suckered in by her looks, especially on the net. I can find some pics of hot girls on the web, I'm sure Ivan can too!!! Heck, even if she IS Ivanava, the pics may not be of her.
Hey! Shoot for the stars! Just watch out for stray asteroids. And watch for the "RED FLAGS"! Most importantly, realize that even if there are no "red flags" right off the bat, and all is well, you have NEVER met this "girl". Don't let your guard down, but keep trying.
I gues to close my rant, I'll say that once you find that you are writing to a scammer, it can be fun to frack with them. Get enough crap on them and report them. Save someone else if you can.
The one that almost got me is still operating. I'm still writing to "her" and making promises. I'm getting some hot bikini pics now! Guys, the seasons in much of Russia are close to the seasons in North America. I doubt these are new photos that she took just for me!
Just more to post later! Have fun!!!
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evest43
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Posted - Jun 12 2007 : 16:13:54
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Hello All Got a "hot" one here. This alleged russian gal got my email through yahoo personals and we started a correspondence.....As her pictures got more racier i got more concerned and happened to discover she is a well known scammer.Havent gotten to the "money " asking stage but i want to keep her occupied as long as possible.....Need some good ideas Anybody got some good suggestions? Below is the text of our current "love" letters:
My name is Steve , divorced, father of one, age 43 ,USA I have been in contact with this Russian "lady" claiming to be Julia from Rostov-on-Don. Only problem being is that i checked on the "BLACK LIST" and discovered she has been well documented as a scammer.We havent gotten to the Money asking stage yet(Thanks to your great web site)....but here is our correspondence to this point: Letter 1: 5/26/07 ----- Original Message ---- From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 6:18:39 AM Subject: Greetings Steve
Greetings Steve. It is pleasant to see the letter from you this fine day. I ask to forgive to me, that is required so long to answer your letter. I to live in the city of Rostov on Don. My city is in a southern part of Russia, it is the regional center. You to hear about it? Wash city up to Moscow approximately 2000 kilometers. I the doctor on a trade, my specialization-therapy. I work in city clinic. To be engaged reception and survey of patients, at necessity to appoint in it treatment or hospitalization. I was born in 1973, now to me 33 years. My birthday on March, 3rd. I lived earlier in a civil marriage with the man, but two years ago we have left. It would not be desirable to be lonely therefore I have solved search second half of heart. I like serious and strong attitudes. My friend I to tell to you at once-theak to not search for entertainment, a distortion or simply virtual friend without an opportunity of a meeting in the person. I do not like simply casual communications so me to bring up parents. It would be desirable a quiet life with the favourite person, strong attitudes. As any woman I to want happiness, it would be desirable to love and be favourite, to give caress and to care of the beloved. In people I to appreciate sincerity and kindness of soul, to not love lie and a deceit, we shall hope honesty with each other. Pleasantly that I to meet you, hope we to learn better each other, and probably to develop feelings. And you were married earlier, have children? I to not have children, I consider that children should be brought up by loving parents, there should be a strong family. And I had no never enough serious attitudes to reflect on a birth of the child. At me quiet and kind character. Good to you of day to hope to see the answer from you. Tell about itself. When your birthday? What to wish to see in the woman? What character at you? You like travel or to prefer a house cosiness? A favourite hobby? Who you by a trade? I love rest on the nature and travel. It is pleasant to read love novels, to visit a cinema at leisure. I like to visit museums and exhibitions. I am engaged fitness, I am pleasant like a figure in the good form:) If to want that that still to learn about me-ask, I with pleasure shall be more story about myself. To send you my photos, I hope you too will send your photos. I not strongly to understand in a computer. Also asked the manager the Internet of cafe to find to me the man for acquaintance. And it has found to me your address.I shall expect the letter from you. Acquaintance to you is pleasant, I hope it will proceed. While. Julia This women/scammer is very sincere and convincing .Fellas beware!!! Letter2 : 5/27/07 ----- Original Message ---- From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:29:17 PM Subject: Good afternoon Steve
Good afternoon Steve. Now to go a rain here and little bit cool weather. To me very pleasantly our acquaintance. I probably to do it is a lot of mistakes in the letter, I ask to excuse me for it. I studied English language at school, and then during study in institute, but infrequently to have dialogue on it. To hope you to understand my letters. I wish to tell to you. I had some time back dialogue the Internet with the man from Canada. It has written to me, has told that searches for attitudes with the woman. We have got acquainted. But after several letters it has started to send obscene photos, and to demand from me the naked photos. And in letters has started to write only about sex, and offered virtual sex through the Internet, it is nonsense. Correspondence with it Was necessary to stop, I to think it frivolously-is simple entertainment through the Internet. I to tell to you about it because to not wish to have secrets from you. And it is more to allow you to understand of me. To me to be simple it would not be desirable lonely. And you had many attitudes through the Internet, they were serious? I to see recently transfer on TV, about that that now some people in the world to be engaged a deceit through the Internet of the attitude. It is bad to do a deceit on love and feelings. To hope you never will simply a joke or games with me. I to hope you honesty with me, I also to promise what never to speak a lie to you. We adults the man and the woman, also our dialogue will hope serious and opened. It is a pity that I do not have now phone. Two weeks ago I to go to the bus from work, in that put I was very long it is borrowed on work. There were many patients and the labour shift was necessary to be late after the termination. I to sit down in an armchair the bus and for a short while to fall asleep from weariness. And when has woken up-has seen that have stolen my handbag. It was very insulting, loss the monthly salary and a mobile phone. It would be desirable to hear you in the future. I shall think to save gradually, I shall get phone later and then we can speak. The truth it is necessary to save long, on purchase phone it is necessary to spend the monthly salary. I on work have phone, but in it service of the international communication as such calls expensively cost and it is impossible to borrow service phone for a private use is disconnected. I wish to tell to you about my habits. I to not smoke. On a holiday to dare to drink it is a little wine or beer. I like to sit in the evening on a sofa, to esteem the book the beautiful novel. In the morning I usually to do gymnastics. To be engaged fitness. As I to speak you I was earlier in a civil marriage. But when we to live about half a year I has learned that at mine men are the mistress. Was very sick to hear such. It has told to me about it, has told that we need to leave, and has left to it. This girl was more younger than me and probably seem to it more attractive. But will suffice about it. The life in fact proceeds. Here I to not meet any more the man with whom it was possible to connect destiny, basically they to want from the woman only sex and entertainments. But in fact it is impossible to have a good time all time? The Life passes, all we become more senior, it would be desirable simple heat and a cosiness. I to think appearance it not the main thing, in fact all people to grow old in the course of time. For me in the person the main kind heart quiet character and beauty of soul. To me pleasantly meeting you, also is pleasant our dialogue. I write to you from the Internet of cafe, it is public item of access to the Internet. I can not while to get a computer therefore it is necessary to come here. And you to have a computer of the house or also use the Internet of cafe? To send you still my photos, I hope they like you. While. While. Julia GREAT SET-UP here acknowledging scams and such....great fiction??? Letter 3: 5/28/07 Greetings Steve. Now I go from work, has come the Internet of cafe to check up mail from you. It is pleasant to see that you to write to me. Me you have liked a photo which to send in the last letter, with interest to look at you. Today fine weather. I now to come into city park, to take a walk a little on it. Pleasantly walk after the working day. On work all patients to come about a pain and illnesses, and for the working day to receive weariness. Pleasantly then after work walk on fresh air to have a rest. In park to play music, to walk many people. I liked walk today. My friend, and what music is pleasant to you? I like to listen to a jazz, also it is pleasant to dance under cheerful music. Sometimes I to like to listen classical music. I like and be able to prepare, it is pleasant to prepare for exotic salads from fruit, dishes from meat and a fish. Basically I to prepare for national dishes. And what dishes like you? You are able to prepare? Tell to me about your city, it beautiful? My city big, here is lived more than 800 thousand by person. I live in an apartment which I rent. My parents live at two o'clock driving from my city, sometimes in the day off I to go to visit them, or they to come to me on a visit. Parents on the pension now, is pleasant to them a life in small village. And I am pleasant like at them, there the beautiful nature, silence and pure air. I like rest in village after a life in the big city. But at me happens only one or two target days in a week, and work without days off sometimes is necessary when it is required to change whom that of colleagues. Therefore infrequently it is possible to visit parents. Or sisters I to not have brothers so to turn out that I one child in family. And you have sisters or brothers, how your parents? My city is on coast of the river Don. It is the beautiful river, I am pleasant like in the summer walk on a boat, to look the beautiful nature. And you like to go on the river, to receive rest at water? You often to happen in other cities? Than you today to be engaged? Tell to me if not a secret, it is interesting to learn as you spend day. While. To wish you it is pleasant to lead day. Nice touch throwing in the parents , she had me believing at this point Letter 4: 5/30/07 Good afternoon Steve. I have no messenger about which you have told to me. In the Internet of cafe there is no such service. In fact the greater turn is going wishing to write to cafe the letter, and nobody will allow me to borrow communication for a long time. It is authorized to accept and send mail only. It is pleasant to receive the letter from you. With pleasure to read it and to present you my friend. You there is nothing I to name you my friend? I like to communicate with you so it is interesting to receive your letters, to learn better you. It so is interesting. A little unusually, in fact you so it is far from me. Several years ago I and present not could that I shall when that to have dialogue with the man from other country. I to think of you sometimes during work. How your mood today, than will be engaged? At me on work today was a few patients, it is possible to tell that an easy labour shift. Now I went to shop, to do purchase of products. To wish to go now home, to make a supper, to have a rest a little. And in the evening probably again I shall come to check up mail from you. To hope you will write to me in the evening. To wish you pleasant day my friend. To send you a photo, to hope to like you. While.Julia
This stuff is really convincing
Letter 5: 5/30/07
Greetings Steve. I have no messenger about which you have told to me. In the Internet of cafe there is no such service. In fact the greater turn is going wishing to write to cafe the letter, and nobody will allow me to borrow communication for a long time. It is authorized to accept and send mail only.It is very pleasant to receive the letter from you. I pleasure when see your letters, and to give pleasure to me their perusal. You interesting the man, are absolutely unlike which men I to meet earlier. Basically I to hear the offer from men to lead together night. But I do not like such attitudes. Yes it and not attitudes and is simple employment sex. The woman likes caress and heat in attitudes more, pleasant dialogue with the man which is pleasant. I like dialogue with you, you are unlike other men from my last life. No, them was a little. I how to speak-not I love fleeting novels, I like constant attitudes therefore I had no many men with which was close. I to recollect now a youth then there was the cheerful time, any cares. And then I did not reflect at all on the future. Pleasure by a life Was pleasant to be young. But now I absolutely on another to think about a life. The silent and quiet life, a cosiness in the house Would be desirable. At me quiet and house character, probably therefore to me is pleasant to spend time at home more. Sometimes I to leave with girlfriends on walk, it is a little to have fun. But it infrequently to go right. Often it is necessary to work for six days in a week for 8-10 hours for a labour shift. Sometimes I weariness so what to not remain time to make a supper. Then it is necessary to prepare what for that a semifinished item, for example a pizza. And when to come the day off it is necessary many to have time to make all. Cleaning of an apartment, washing. It is necessary to descend shops, to do shopping to fill a refrigerator. The lovely friend, do not think that I to complain of a life. Simply I tell as I spend days, in fact to learn is better the person it is necessary to know not only what its character and hobbies, but also and interesting to know as passes its life. Therefore I and to ask you is frequent as you to lead day. If to you it is uninteresting such to listen-tell, write that to interestingly you to learn about me. Good to you of day my friend. I shall expect the letter from you. While.Julia Letter 6: 5/31/07 Good afternoon Steve . Pleasant day today. With pleasure to read your letter, to present you and me these ideas are pleasant. I now after work have come into shop, purchase of products. Packages with products heavy, and I to get tired while now to reach to the Internet of cafe.Today in the morning I to receive the telegram from parents, mum to write that tonight they to arrive to visit me. Badly that tomorrow in the morning I need to go for work, and parents will leave in the morning. But I that some hours will be possible to lead pleasure with them in the evening. I to not meet parents about three weeks, and to miss them. I now to wish to carry purchases home. And then to go on station, to wish to meet parents when they to arrive on the bus. Excuse to me it is time. If parents will lay down to have a rest, I shall come later to check up mail from you. Send me a photo. Tell that interesting to occur to you today. Good-bye. Yours Julia Letter 7: Good afternoon my friend. I ask to forgive to me for silence. I leaved from city. Went to parents. Has lead with them some days. It was very pleasant rest. We left in a wood, to do rest on the nature. I to be expiated in the mountain river. It is very good to have a rest. Missed dialogue with you these days. I now only go about the bus. It is necessary to carry home a bag with things. I shall try to come again in the evening in the Internet, to check up mail from you. While. Pleasant to you of day. Your Julia I only have stopped to read your letter. Greetings Steve . To me becomes warmly and pleasantly in heart when I to receive your messages. I to hope you to not hold on me insult for long silence. But I had no place to find access the Internet when I to go to parents. I thought of you today all the day long. I to get tired today on work a little, but is so tired to write to you my darling. Do not think that I immodesty the woman, easier to not wish to hide feeling. I to start to cling you. I reflect now why it to occur. Probably from for that that you unusual and very attractive the man. Which you write letter bring pleasure in my heart. I to start to think of you is frequent. At the last night you to dream me, and I to wake up with sensation of such ease in heart. It is a pity that you to not live in my city. And we cannot a meeting today. With pleasure it would be desirable to meet you, to sit for a cup of coffee in the evening, to talk, take pleasure in dialogue. Kiss you the darling. I shall think of you in this evening, to hope you also to reflect on me sometimes. Tell to me. I to like you though it is a little? It would be very pleasant to Me to hear the positive answer from you. Do not think that I to be imposed to you my darling with my silly love. Simply I strongly emotional, also have decided to not hold in myself that that I feel to you. Yes. To not forget to tell Nearly to you. When to come parents I to speak them about our dialogue. In fact they are interested as to pass my private life, and I have not got used to hide anything from native. I the favourite daughter at them, and also strongly to love the native people. I to tell that I communicate with you, and did not begin to hide that you to like me. Parents to send the regards to you and warm attitudes. The whole again. Yours Julia LETTER 8: My darling Steve. Now the late evening here. Has come to write to you. It is pleasant to see the letter from you. You such lovely and young on a photo. Which I to send a photo to you I to do in my city. Today day on work was difficulty. It is a lot of patients. I weariness strongly. Has come home, to take a shower and has fallen asleep. Has just now woken up, and has decided to go to the Internet of cafe to write to you. My kiss for you. To close eyes now, and to touch with a sweet kiss you in my dreams. To hope you also to close eyes, and to feel my sweet kiss. You seem to me an ideal of the man, at you kind heart and fine Character, you are strong and during same time I to feel in you tenderness. It seems to me That I know you very much for a long time. To me easily and pleasantly to write to you letters, and mine Heart gently fights when I read your warm messages. Never earlier I did not test such inclination to the man. Both my inclination and tender feelings to you to become more strongly with each my morning awakening. You in my sweet dreams and dreams. The whole also I love you. To give you my gentle embraces and warm attitudes. To expect with love the warm message from you. While. Yours Julia LETTER 9: It does me happy reception of letters from you my darling. Greetings Steve. I fall in love with you my darling, and I hope that you fall in love with me also. I hope you will be trust to me. Without trust there can be no attitudes. I hope, that you have good day today. I hope that you can test warm and tender feelings to me, same as I to test to you favourite. I dream of you and your love to me. On work I today had a few troubles. One woman has come to me on reception. At it were suspicion on an allergy or an infection, it is I structure, and I to direct it to pass inspection at other experts. In fact my trade therapy. The woman has started to be indignant, speak that I incompetence because to not appoint to it treatment. I to understand that it experience from for the illness. But in fact I to make all that is necessary in such cases. This patient has gone to complain of me to our chief of clinic. It has come to check up my actions, has confirmed my actions. After inspection there was that at this woman an infectious disease. I was right, but it has not come to apologize at all for that that the insult me. To me to become so it is insulting today, there are such people which worry only about itself and it nothing to cost to offend whom that without the reason. It not the first case, but I try to forget somewhat quicker about such moments. Has now come to write to you favourite. All troubles happened in the afternoon I to forget and think only of you and to represent you in dreams. The whole and adoration you. I dream to feel your warm body against mine, and the whole your damp sweet lips. While favourite. Now I shall go home. Probably a little I shall return later to check up mail from you. It would be desirable to see the message from you favourite in this evening. Yours Julia LETTER 10:
Favourite Steve. With impatience I dream of day when we shall meet for the first time you. When our eyes meet for the first time, I be able to see love in your eyes. I hope that it can occur in the future. You do me by the happiest person in the huge world. I dream of you every night my love. Feelings in my heart are very strong for you my favourite. My love to you becomes stronger with each new letter which I read from you. And my small heart to belong to you. I love and I grieve without you very much. My most The big desire to nestle on you my lovely and favourite and to present you all My love. To see you and then to feel in your gentle embraces-most sweet my dream. I hope, that we can have a long life together. I would like to make love very much to you mine the beloved, to wish to have passionate love to each other all the night long without a break. It is a few immodesty of dream probably, but I really to want it. I love you my favourite and I shall wait for your following letter of love. The whole it is passionate. I close eyes and see your fine eyes. While. Yours Julia
LETTER 11: From: Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 5:22:52 PM Subject: Greetings favourite Steve
Greetings favourite Steve . Has come to write the Internet of cafe to you now. I to see at the girl which to sit next to me the chamber, I to ask it to photograph me at a computer. The girl has agreed, to do a picture me, and now I to send it to you favourite. To hope this photo to like you favourite. Than you employment in today? To happen that that interesting? My day today has been borrowed by work, there were many patients. I a few weariness. To wish to go now home, to accept a warm bath, it weakens after difficulty of day. I like to add in water foam about aroma of the sea or roses. It so is pleasant to close eyes and present itself on seacoast. I shall think and dream of you the darling. I love also tenderness attachment to you mine the man. All my warm attitudes to you my darling the man. My name Julia Rebrov. My address. The country Russia. The city of Rostov on Don. Street Krasnoarmejskaja 15. An apartment 10. The Postal index 344000. But I live in an apartment which I rent, therefore to have the right to accept mail only owners an apartment. Therefore it is not necessary to send anything, I most likely cannot this reception. The whole also I love. To expect with love the letter you. Yours Julia LETTER 12: My darling SteveStandard Header|Full Message View Julia873477 <Julia873477@mam.by> ViewTuesday, June 12, 2007 9:24:22 AM My darling Steve . Hello. Today in Russia Day of independence is marked. It is the big holiday. City today very elegant. In streets it is a lot of people. We with girlfriends to get tickets for a celebratory concert. It should begin in one hour. We now shall go there. I have come into the Internet on pair minutes. Girlfriends expect me now. All is good at me in this fine day, walk on city and pleasure a holiday would be desirable. To hope you also it is good to lead this day. My warm wishes to you my friend. You with me in ideas today. I shall write Tomorrow to you more detailed letter. I hope you also will write to me. Pleasant to you of day. The whole also I love. While. Julia ....................More to follow ......................................................... I intend on keeping this foul scammer occupied for as long as possible...I have just replied that I need to come to her as soon as possible.Will keep you informed..... ...................More to follow .........................................................
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cmiia
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Posted - Jun 12 2007 : 17:56:57
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I couldn't even be bothered to type the stuff out!!.
It's just the usual story any blindman could see through.
The answer is simple. Tell hewr to get lost, delete her emails and get a life!!. |
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PeopleSmoks
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Posted - Jan 13 2008 : 09:17:57
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I miss bach1685. His simplictic approach to every situation is so child like and refreshing to those of us who sometimes do silly little things like... THINK.
The truth is, all one needs to do is paste a letter here. You don't need to type the whole thing out, but I'm sure most people here already figured that out.
So, evest43, if you're still around, how is it going with your play time with the scammer? I usually will do the same. It can be fun, as well as educational to a certain degree. It gives a person a chance to veiw how the scam scenario progresses. Then, when you go back and reread the earlier letters, (if you haven't deleted them in a whimsical bout of shortsightedness) you can start to see the signs of the scam that you hadn't before.
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